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Vick, that piece of crap testosterone dominated
gladiator athlete who invested his success in
the torture of dogs . . . apologized to his
fan base and his employers and axed
for forgiveness and promised to make himself
a better person in his press statement. Yeah,
that's what really matters here . . . Michael
Vick becoming a better person.
Some people are still claiming he has been demonized
as a successful black athlete who is being unfairly
persecuted. This is a ridiculous argument because
it is his very success which makes his choice
for dog torture for fun and profit so incomprehensible.
What could have been his motive? Just getting
more fun and more acclaim from people he was
enabled to support from his success.
Further . . . the worst thing
. . . he has never yet mentioned THE
DOGS. He claims rehabilitation.
What about the
DOGS THAT CANNOT BE REHABILITATED AND WILL BE
DESTROYED? Did he offer to pay
Cesar Millan to rehabilitate and find homes
for those dogs whose disposition he helped to
create FOR FUN
AND EGO STROKES AMONG HIS SADISTIC FRIENDS?!
HE NEVER MENTIONED
THE INHUMANE TREATMENT OF THE DOGS - THE SPECIFIC,
Saying "dogfighting is bad" doesn't
cover the meaning of this issue. He talks about
his immaturity but leaves out the choice of
sadism. He left out WHAT HE DID. THIS IS NOT
No, I don't think his public apology has any
value and I believe it was made as a public
relations ploy to cut his losses and help save
his post-prison career.
This is what comes from paying people obscene
amounts of money for skills, however marvellous
they may be and however many "thrills"
they supply to the public. They may be ignorant,
sadistic, egomaniacs who would torture to death
a fellow creature . . . but if they keep us
entertained, and ax for forgiveness, what the
heck, we can forgive them anything if they pretend
to feel badly.
Oh yeah . . . and he has found Jesus. What would
Jesus have said ABOUT THE DOGS? What happened
to THE DOGS?
Individuals, every one of them. He left them
out of his pathetic plea. I can't believe that,
after finding Jesus, Jesus wouldn't have told
him that remorse is tied to genuine empathy,
and the empathy belongs to the creatures he
tortured. HE LEFT
OUT HIS EMPATHY FOR THE DOGS WHOSE TORTURE HE
SPONSORED. Therefore there IS
no remorse and axing for forgiveness means little
to me. LET'S SEE
SOME EMPATHY FOR THE CREATURES HE HARMED FIRST.
It's missing because he still doesn't believe
he hurt anybody important, other than his fan
base. Being sorry for his wealthy employers
and his fan base hardly qualifies here.
And what can you expect from a professional
respond to Michael Vick . . .
is a cute video. But if you go to Youtube.com,
you can see videos of the despicable sport of
dogfighting, what it's really like. I couldn't
watch it, so I can't post a link in my blog.
But let me say it again: what a travesty of
justice it is to make a plea to save his multimillion
dollar career, as though he deserves it. It's
really only about preserving income for the
business of football where he is a star.
The NAACP: Oh he's being persecuted so unfairly.
at these pieces of crap "football stars"
saying that if Michael Vick wants to fight dogs,
that's his business and what goes on behind
closed doors is private business:
Michael Vick. Poor millionaire football players,
having their gaming fun spoiled. And they are
such "role models". How in the hell
these people qualify as role models, I cannot
are not enough words in the English language
to express my contempt for these people who
defend the illegal and inhuman activity of dogfighting.
have scant empathy for Michael Vick. This is
not just a "mistake" he made . . .
deriving fun and profit from the ghastly suffering
of dogs. This is not the kind of activity someone
does as an "accidental" or "mistaken"
impulsive choice. This is characterological
betting on dogfights is not just a little slip
up. It was an activity pursued over a long period
of time which reveals deep attitudes which are
unlikely to be easily changed. Vick did not
need the money he derived from these cruel,
inhumane, and violent activities. He
was doing it for the fun of the gaming.
He clearly, undeniably, considers it a reasonable
way to have "fun" and to provide "fun"
for other people and to provide a "fun"
way for other men to gamble on pain. A short
stay in jail and some fines to a multimillionaire
are not going to change his idea of what is
But the defense of this behavior I have seen
on TV (as from the NAACP and many funloving
football fans - "oh, don't ruin his football
career") is almost as bad as the original
behavior. Several spokespeople have claimed
that football fans should not be deprived of
the thrills that Michael Vick has provided them
on the field, where they watch men slam their
bodies together to produce a constant source
of painful injuries which will be with them
for the rest of their lives. Yes, that's the
result of playing football for years: irreparable
injuries, a shortened lifespan, and constant
pain. It's not that far from dogfighting in
my book. I'm married to a man who played football
in highschool and college and I've read many
statements by pro football players and is a
fact that these men get money and prestige for
damaging their own bodies for the "thrills"
they can provide to fans . . .and the riches
that are generated by college and pro football
businessmen. This sport simply generates a whole
lot of money. I don't care how attractive and
fun football looks, its reality is that it is
just our ultimate gladiatorial display of testosterone
aggressivity and resistance to pain. It's not
that different than dogfighting, but these "dogs"
don't have fur. It's certainly a way for a lot
of men to make a lot of money by sacrificing
their health and well being and accepting pain
in order to demonstrate physical toughness and
But at least football players volunteer and
are rewarded and not tortured to death against
their wills. Instead, they are paid a whole
lot of money for their aggressive skills and
talent . . . which someone like Michael Vick
can then invest in torturing dogs.
I spit on the "thrill" Michael Vick
has provided to his fans. What a piece of crap
argument it is that his career should be spared
because of all the thrilling moments he has
provided to his fans. What a stupid illogical
argument it is that he has been vilified more
than a wife abuser would be. These arguments
do not compute to me at all. These arguments
come from men who don't want their fucking fun
Imagine that this man has million of dollars
and this is what he invests it in and how he
derived ego strokes and fun: torturing dogs
emotionally and physically. And imagine that
we should not torture him in return by taking
away his million dollar meal ticket, which he
used to invest in dog torture for fun.
what it is, folks. Plain and simple. People
defend Michael Vick largely with the argument
that we should not take away his ability to
supply us with thrills by ruining his football
If we do not stand up against animal abuse in
such flagrant, shameless forms - including a
public acknowledgment that perpetrators do not
deserve to receive obscene amounts of money
in order to indulge in it freely - then I will
truly feel despair for the Roman Empire state
of my country.
How's this: if there are men who find dogfighting
fun, why don't they spend their money on a ticket
to Baghdad, where some real bloodsports are
going on? They don't need to torture dogs in
safety, while drinking bear and shouting and
revelling in their "sport" - they
can go watch some honest to God torture and
put their own lives at risk. What shitty cowards
these men are, what nasty little boys. And that
denigration goes for any woman who knowlingly
shares a life with any man who would do such
a thing. Shame on the lot of them. They don't
deserve the same torture they inflicted on those
dogs . . . but they deserve to be relieved of
their public acclaim and obscene monetary rewards.
Sure humans can always be redeemed. But I have
neither seen or heard Michael Vick say anything
that indicates a second of empathy for the despair
and pain of the dogs who were tortured and killed
. . . and those still living, whose lives are
now forfeit. He's a poor excuse for a man who
is sorry for being persecuted for a little thing
like dog torture. I have not heard a single
word yet that shows that he could put himself
in the place of those dogs or that he values
No, a short prison stay is NOT ENOUGH TO REPUDIATE
THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR. TAKE AWAY THE MONEY AND
THE ACCLAIM ON WHICH IT WAS BUILT. This is the
only long term solution to change attitudes
and behavior: take away the rewards on which
this arrogant, aggressive, shameful license
to hurt was founded. And make that publically
clear as the standard response to reprehensible
I don't give a damn how many thrilling moments
this nasty rich goodlooking gladiator who is
dedicated to the worst kind of thrillseeking
has provided to his fans. I don't care about
the fans either. But I do make a connection
between thrillseeking and grossly inhumane behavior.
I piss on people who think their thrills are
so valuable that they must save people like
Michael Vick from a deep and lasting lesson.
And the only thing that will really last is
the end of his gravy train . . . which he invested
in DOG TORTURE.
Every one of the dogs involved was more valuable
than Michael Vick and his "thrilling"
moments on the football field.
But worst of all . . .this kind of behavior
is symptomatic of a culture which thinks that
suffering IS a thrill to observe.
was truly inspired by Nancy Pelosi yesterday.
I almost felt hopeful about politics, watching
her being installed as the first woman Speaker
of the House. Not to mention the fact that the
Dems are now in a tiny majority. Even if the
Republicans are whining now about procedures
and Shrub is dithering while bodies pile up
in Iraq . . .taking his time to think things
through. As though he could think. As though
the world should sit here holding our breath
waiting for a single decision from this single
man. The colossal insanity of power.